Realco's Magnet Motor Build

[realco]

Hello everyone.
Since my last post in this forum I have been trying to recover my youtube account. Impossible with the variants it gives you to verify you. I haven't used the youtube channel since before the pandemic, so I forgot my login details, namely password. I have a new channel, and for those who are interested, I provide the link to the old channel to get an idea.
Now I've been challenged by Brad (Tinman) by what he claims he has achieved.... So I improvised a bit to check how real his latest presentation in OverUnity reresearch is. Gentlemen I don't have a printer. I'm of more modest means, so I put to work the ministerrung I have, and tried the Igor Belenski version with the same principle, widely commented in Ufo's forum!!!
I don't claim that my model is perfectly adjusted, nor that I used a correct symmetry between stator and rotor and especially its dimensions, so please correct me with your experience. Please ask Master Floor to intervene. Thank you.
Ps. for any inadvertence in the expression, please forgive me. I speak only basic English.

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I promised I'd link to my old youtube channel. For anyone interested ...
https://www.youtube.com/c/cristophalba

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Obviously in the previous post, a failure was clearly seen, but I guess I'm fishing in murky waters for now. Thanks again for your patience.

[Jim Mac]

Hey nice build..

From my experiences, magnetized metal will not repel a magnet. I have tried several configurations, even directly attaching 1 thin laminate to 80mm N52 neos.  Either polarity of the magnet attracts to the metal the same.  

But we know that magnetized metal WILL attract to other metal..  And I can demonstrate magnetized metal will repel other magnetized metal.  So maybe that angle could be explored.

[realco]

Thanks for your comment Jim. I think in this case the metal component of whatever form it is (I chose bearing balls), would not do anything other than act as a gate between two magnets transferring magnetic flux between the two at a time, provided it produces in the mirror, so that the ball in my case floats smoothly when passing between two magnets. Only in this way will the sticky point be minimal. This principle is present in the adjustment of the gate lamine in Tinman's device, and has been commented in the forum
What happens in my motor is adjustment error between ball and magnets due to the difference between stator magnets (recovered from several dc motors in automotive environment) Igor Belensky uses in his rotor some small bars on the whole diameter.

I have attached a screenshot of Igor's drawing

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I tried replacing the balls with two small bearings very well cleaned with acetone. It is known that when magnetized some of them "go crazy".I will see after a precise adjustment.
With respect. cristian alba

[PhaseChange]

Hey nice build..

From my experiences, magnetized metal will not repel a magnet. I have tried several configurations, even directly attaching 1 thin laminate to 80mm N52 neos.  Either polarity of the magnet attracts to the metal the same.  

But we know that magnetized metal WILL attract to other metal..  And I can demonstrate magnetized metal will repel other magnetized metal.  So maybe that angle could be explored.

Quote:  From my experiences, magnetized metal will not repel a magnet

making a monopole magnet.mp4 (youtube.com)

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Therefore, if the magnet is repelling the ball, the ball is repelling the magnet.

[Jim Mac]

I stand corrected.  Tinman's video does indeed show the steel ball repelling the magnet.

[realco]

<<<I tried replacing the balls with two small bearings very well cleaned with acetone.>>>


Bad  news.... The bearings I used saturate immediately due to inadequate magnetic remanence. So, my rotor doesn't work. I attach a photo below.
I'm going to make a complete rotor with 8 iron pieces (small bars) to replace the balls from the first attempt.
I also have the feeling that the space between the north and south poles of the stator is not suitable for the diameter.
These are the first conclusions for this device. I will comment on each step.
If there is someone who knows something about this motor, please help me.
Thank you Christian Alba.

[realco]

Here is another concept video about magnetic flux switching

[MagnaProp]

Good effort realco. It may help Igor's design if the magnet is smaller or shaped different so the magnetism is more of a point than a wide area.

The top rectangular magnet is what he has. It's like a bunch of little magnets all around the perimeter. The center of the magnet surface isn't where the magnetism is comming from.

The bottom blue, pointed magnet is what I think we want. The magnetism still comes from the perimeter but the perimeter is confined closer together.

[realco]

Good effort realco. It may help Igor's design if the magnet is smaller or shaped different so the magnetism is more of a point than a wide area.

The top rectangular magnet is what he has. It's like a bunch of little magnets all around the perimeter. The center of the magnet surface isn't where the magnetism is comming from.

The bottom blue, pointed magnet is what I think we want. The magnetism still comes from the perimeter but the perimeter is confined closer together.

Thanks MagnaProp
As for Igor Belenski, he's a smart guy who lives off sponsorships from magnetic item sales companies, youtube etc. I don't think he's made much of an effort to track down the cause of his artifact not working.
I think Ufo is right about the shape of the stator. It must be in the shape of a circular arc, as I have seen from my own samples.
And yes, you're right. The rectangular magnet in this case is only effective in the central area, the rest is lost. I'll see if I'll succeed something with the new rotor I'm building, more precisely, more centered and with 12 pieces instead of only two like the previous one.
Best regards.  cristian alba

[realco]

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Hello everyone
After six days of trying I have decided to give up the igor belensky engine project. It doesn't work and won't work as long as there is no other data about this engine. I had a video clip to inspire me, but it's not enough. I found it very easy to do and no pitfalls. Apparently I haven't learned yet that things that seem simple are also the most complicated. I give up. I'm folding and going to tackle another project that has been on hold for a long time, but due to lack of time I haven't been able to get much done. Now that I'm newly retired, I have all the time in the world.
All the best.  cristian alba