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Proper Car Engine Power For S1R9A9M9 Conversion
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This message is in regards to the Georgia conversions on the earlier 4,6, 8-cylinder engines , 2005-2008) used with mineral water. The shop had worked on a hundred adjustments for years , trying to get it right. They talked about surging, rough engines, and some actual improvement came when it was Nathren (father) who was the only one who noticed about EGR being used on the better running engines.

I had made up a list of possibilities of minor changes that I had never submitted to them, possibly they never thought of.
I wanted to tell you about one of those on the list. The Georgia techs used the same Inverter box on each car with the matching relays per cylinder, to make use of the inductors and diodes. Now,....... There are several types of Inverters 110v AC output. (I prefer the 220v units as diodes bank loses about 10 volts)

There is the low frequency 60 cycles as modified corrected sine wave (square waves).
The 500W 20khz high frequency open board China Inverters with multiple outputs.
The 500-600W 60 cycles pure sine wave circuit Inverter unit.
The 1000W Blue box Tataliken brand 12v to 220v from China direct Aliexpress $27.92 on sale. Pure sine wave.
The specs sheet is important. See also not saying 250W continuous power 500W peak. Read the fine print. You want the 500W as general use continuous. This is so you can get a higher amps value as peak. (Average amps used is low)
Why this is important is because Inverters also give a specification for Peak, temporary current under 40% duty cycle. Such as 400W to 800W with an associated peak amps pulse current. The cheaper quality Inverters are mostly modified/corrected sine wave. What that means is, not quality repeatable same peak current in fast pulses. It is now assumed that the Georgia techs needed to change their input power to Pure Sine Wave , more costly Inverters. It has to do with type of electrical load as resistive, inductive, etc. They had never , over the years finally corrected the engine running problem. Also, source to purchase exact special relays never found. They had been using the Green Inverter box Power On Board 400watts, modified sine wave, 12vDC to 110v AC.
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This is really interesting, as Merlynn mentioned inverters running from a dead 12V car battery when revealing some of the Joe Cell tech.

Have you attempted this? I would like to see a simple circuit to better understand if you have one.
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I am still researching , buying parts, regarding the lawn mower conversion to salt water electrolysis of spark plugs. Tests were done back in summer of 2008 in Georgia. See running engine on (2) You Tube videos. S1R9A9M9. Hydrogen gas generated along with water vapor pressure. Self running engine from the on board 2 alternators powering the electromagnet + Primary side of Inverter box. 120volts or more needed at 7 Peak pulse amps . 1-2.4 average amps from DC pulses. Duty cycle about 15-34%, as flywheel goes all around for next Ignition pulse also. 66% off time. Battery start . battery removed. Alternators run by 12 magnets, just like 1 magnet for ignition high volts. The web site shut down in fall of 2019. I photocopied lots of tech data.
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The DC generator is mounted under flywheel of all Briggs riding lawn mowers engines. On the S1R9A9M9 engine of 2008, it had what what called DUAL ALTERNATORS. The red and black wire is actually (2) separate AC alternators output. The opposite ends of the coils are grounded under the plastic ring under the flywheel. Black is ACĀ  power, not a ground wire. The 2 AC wires extend to rectification to recharge battery or provide power to extra circuit. It is UNUSUAL to use the 2 wires at same time for same purpose, instead of headlights + charging line. The flywheel contains 13 permanent magnets. 12 for the generator and 1 for the ignition. No input is used to run generator or ignition other than turning crankshaft. When hydrogen gas fuel is made at spark plug , the engine starts running. The battery was used for the starter motor only, then completely shut off. Power to make electrolysis is then coming from generator at idle speed. Salt water is allowed to flow into top of carb from hose + bottle. Diodes needed to get DC to make low efficiency electrolysis of water. Fuel gas forms at tips of spark plug and fires same time. The added wire coil changes the timing ,as is needed with hydrogen. The spark plug receives what is called pulse PEAK DC current as about 10A. Spark plug was changed to Champion QC12YC at 125 ohms , rather than original 4000ohms resistance. They also come apart to remove resistor to get a Zero ohms racing plug. ( copper #12 wire segment replacement) Inverter box of 300-500W used with primary side of 9-10 amps DC from idling alternators. 110v DC full wave used from secondary side for firing spark plug. Peak pulse amps + average amps over the cycle time. The separate electromagnet 20 turns wire over plug wire, of 5 amps, causes extension of spark time for about 34% duty cycle. Firing Hydrogen requires late timing.

You can verify an old used engine would just run by adding 70% alcohol, or acetylene gas from carbide stones + water added, or also Ether spray into carb. The sound of Nathren's water engine on hydrogen from 2008 sounds like a water pump. Youtube (2 )videos by S1R9A9M9
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