Energy gained from collapsing magnetic fiels

[Cadman]

I performed an experiment that shows two extra currents can be created for one pulse from the source.

The concept was nothing new as the test device is just a modified induction transformer, configured as a flyback type with a fast diode that only allows current to exist in the secondary when the magnetic field collapses. A LOPT, connected to a load.

The setup takes three capacitors. One for the source current, one for the load of the circuit, and one for the flyback. The load and secondary caps were 3000uf 400V, and the source cap 4700uf 35V.

It’s configured like this:

SOURCE --- MOMENTARY SWITCH --- PRIMARY OF LOPT --- LOAD CAP.
SECONDARY --- 3rd CAP only.

The source cap is charged to 24V and the other two caps are shorted to remove any potential. Then the mechanical switch is closed for about 1 ms, then the joules in the load and secondary’s cap are added together and compared to the drop in joules of the source cap. The combined joules of the load and secondary cap were about two and a half times greater than the joules expended from the source cap.

Now, did the collapse of the primary magnetic field after the source is cut off create two new extra currents that are not derived from the source itself and produced a combined output greater than the input alone?
Yes it did.

My observation shows the source current builds the magnetic field in the primary and simultaneously powers the load. The source is cut off on the high side and the field collapses creating a new extra current in the primary which also powers the load. The secondary creates a new extra current which was captured in a separate cap.

Two currents reached the load for one impulse from the source. A third current is captured by the cap or used as desired.

It’s a simple concept and it was well known over a century ago.

Cadman

[Cadman]

Taking this method further, I think if the LOPT was simultaneously disconnected at both ends when the primary reaches it’s optimum value, both the inductive collapse current from the secondary and the primary can be captured.

This would give the load one impulse instead of two and the total joules collected would exceed the joules applied to the load.

[Jim Mac]

This sounds like absolute proof that OU is possible. 

Got a video of this in action?

[Cadman]

Every time I ran it, it blew all the fets on the first pulse. That's a testament to my electronic skills.
However I was rummaging through an old box of car parts the other day and found my Accel dual point distributor from my old mustang, still in good shape. Popped the cap to look inside and an idea came. Use those ignition points and cam lobe for the interrupters! So that is where this is headed now.

But hey, if you have the caps and coils on hand try the experiment in my first post and then try breaking high and low. I posted this topic so anyone can see for themselves.

The core I used was a 24mm plastic tube from Amazon filled with powdered composite iron, but any straight core of transformer steel would be better.

PS. I also found a couple of 750VA control transformers for 208-460 3 phase to 115 single phase. I think that would be worth trying out too.

[nali2001]

Hi Cadman, would you say the below image is your described circuit?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IV3f6t9...sp=sharing

[Cadman]

Hi Cadman, would you say the below image is your described circuit?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IV3f6t9...sp=sharing

Hi nali2001,

Essentially, yes. Although it may not matter too much I used a straight core with the primary wound on first, then the secondary on top of that and both coils wound in the same direction. It looks like an old fashion induction coil. All 20ga wire. 650 turns primary, 1050 turns secondary. You can use fewer turns. You may have to flip your diode.

This is the circuit that blows up instantly but you can see how everything is arranged. Close S1 to charge the cap to 24V, open S1, close S2, pulse 1ms - BOOM fet is blown by a fast 80 amp pulse.
   

Take out all the pulsing circuitry and fet, connect S2 to the MUR460 diode and just tap close S2.

[andy]

Hi Cadman, I just read this thread and it is very interesting. I will try to replicate it (probably in an easier way) and look on output results.
Thank you for posting this.

[Cadman]

Hi Cadman, I just read this thread and it is very interesting. I will try to replicate it (probably in an easier way) and look on output results.
Thank you for posting this.

Hi Andy,

You're welcome. A replication by you or Nali2001 or anyone for that matter, would be very welcome. An independent replication is the only way to validate or debunk my results.

Looking forward to hearing all about it. Good luck and may your circuit live forever.

[Cadman]

I don’t see a files section on this forum so I’ll try to attach a pdf file here.
A quick study shows I built my transformer all wrong, but it worked anyway.
It's a good article. I hope you find this useful.

[nali2001]

I don’t see a files section on this forum so I’ll try to attach a pdf file here.
A quick study shows I built my transformer all wrong, but it worked anyway.
It's a good article. I hope you find this useful.

Do you by chance also have an image of the iron powder transformer you describe?