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Next Generation - Clemente Figuera 1908
#31
Hello Jim, I've carefully examined your electrical diagram and noticed a difference between Figuera's drawing and yours.
Figuera's electromagnets are in opposition; they repel each other.

-      N               y             S
- -------------><-----------><----------
In your diagram, the magnetic fields of the electromagnets are oriented in the same magnetic direction.
-       N                y                S
- -------------> ------?------- >----------> What is the influence of this principle?
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#32
Figuera copies dynamo field dynamics, so both B fields are in a common direction and not opposing.
The patents refer to the Pixii dynamo
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and Gramme
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#33
(01-15-2026, 10:23 AM)bigeasy Wrote: Hello Jim, I've carefully examined your electrical diagram and noticed a difference between Figuera's drawing and yours.
    Figuera's electromagnets are in opposition; they repel each other.

-           N               y             S
-    -------------><-----------><----------
    In your diagram, the magnetic fields of the electromagnets are oriented in the same magnetic direction.
-          N                y                S
-    -------------> ------?------- >----------> What is the influence of this principle?

Yea, it is really all indifferent.  The normal Figuera understanding only really induces right with N/N facing each other. But he labels the patent as N/S arrangement.  My new arrangement needs to position the coils N/S to match the patent's description better.  That is "IF" we view the current flowing in the original way, (which it is not). So it's probably incorrect to even say N/S.

On this new method, the direction of incoming current is opposite that of the standard way in the coil closer to the negative terminal. So since the current is flowing differently now, North facing is not really NORTH Facing at all because we are feeding it in the opposite direction!

The reality is, we just flip the connection of 1 coil to connect it so output is optimal.  There has been much debate in the past IF the arrangement really is N/N, or N/S.  But all that noise matters not if the entire powering and operation was FUBAR'd from the start.

In my view, the new way allows the coils to be oriented correctly to induce properly, as the scope shot shows.  The whole debate and noise about N/N , N/S and what the patent meant is a distractor..  There is only 1 orientation that will induce better And the direction of change is what really matters much more than polarity.  

What I mean is,  Growing North will induce the same current direction as Shrinking South.  There are lots of arbitrary statements out there which just add unnecessary confusion.  

As you can see, I purposefully made my reply arbitrary and wavy, which can be deciphered with many angles.
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#34
Hi all

Today I got 2000lb winch / what a disappointment


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#35
(10 hours ago)Lasco Wrote: Hi all

Today I got 2000lb winch / what a disappointment

I assume the disappointment is the round commutator and not flat.  Yeah, that sucks..  Warn winches and knockoffs have flat commutators.


After a day's evaluations, I came to the conclusion my main problem is the brush I am using on the slip ring.  It is from a vacuum cleaner and has like 4 ohms resistance through it..  While the winch brush, commutator, and all wires have under 1 ohm resistance put together!  

So by replacing the slip ring brush with a lower ohm alternative, I can greatly improve the shrinking state close to zero..   

Hopefully that will be good enough to start testing
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#36
My new commutator would have delay in construction 
Never mind
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