My little stupid project - a synergy based generator

[fxeconomist]

Hi there guys,

Last year I tried my hand at magnetics and failed, I said I have to get into electricity and overunity as literally saw no other way to get free energy. And I considered that free energy is THE sine qua non key to keeping our freedoms in the future ; we can accept to eat less and worse, but we will never accept a life without energy.

I started in my January vacation with Patrick Kelly's channel and gradually started to understand the principles in generating free energy.

Then one day I stumbled upon Dr Peter Lindemann's lecture about cold energy. While this was beyond my understanding (I don't understand what is past the point of generating voltage arcs), the lecture ended with some minutes about aether. And Lindemann gave this definition, from occultist Rudolf Steiner - that electricity is an unnatural combination of the light aether with the warmth aether - and he explained the nature of the two aethers, that the light aether is about voltage, capacitance and dielectric forces in nature, while the warmth aether is about resistance, amperage and the magnetic forces in nature.

And this information was for me a key, I started to believe that somehow, voltage and amperage come from parallel dimensions, that they are not just the result on paper of what you get when you divide power to one of them.

And I thought that, well, there is no way to combine voltage with amperage coming from established sources of power, but perhaps a synergy is possible if they are induced at the same time in the same conductor.


On the voltage side we have coils - producing high voltage flyback ; we have capacitors - remaking current inside in their dielectric induction area between the plates ; we have Wimhurst machines using electrostatic induction.

But on the amperage side the only thing I knew was the homopolar (unipolar) generator : the Faraday disk.

So I started building my own: wood planks and bed legs, a 24V high RPM motor (10000RPM unloaded at 12V, 20000RPM unloaded at 24V), and two 12 cm pot magnets.

I went to a local engineering firm, I got the pots welded to collars, finally I got it done.

The results were surprising. I didn't read too much on the surface of the pots, but on the inner side of the pots, between the magnets and the pot margin, I started to see the amperage. i bought an 100A Henschen analog ammeter and to my surprise, I started to read high amps, much higher than expected. I was dreaming to get 20A at most, and I got 50A, 80A, and at some point, when I pushed the brush a lot between the pot and the margin, the needle went past 100A!

When I connected the multimeter, I felt Papa Lorentz coming. Although I read this is a Lorentz-less generator, I felt it coming. Wasn't too much, but it felt that there was a draw. Voltage was tiny, 60mV, but the Lorentz did upset me.

After that I had health issues - I had my right hand offline for two months - computer issues, strong colds, everything imaginable.

After months of learning about capacitors I decided to return to the coil idea, and I made a toroidal coil wrapped around a magnet, which I magnetically attached to one of the pot magnets. This came within a cut piece of steel tube as a brush track.

But it didn't work, and this is where the project stopped. It is a bit wobbly and the magnetic attraction force simply can't beat the centrifugal force. It violently shakes the generator and it's thrown off the shaft in two seconds.

Current phase - will be getting some new parts, will visit the engineers again to get an almost solid steel core welded.
 
I felt a bit dismayed by the arrival of Lorentz and the existence of homopolar motors. I've seen people on YouTube making homopolar toys : wrap a coil around a battery, put a magnet pill on an end, and voila, they turn only due to Lorentz : no need of magnetic fields activations and deactivations like in DC or AC motors. It just spins by itself.

This meant with the use of a solenoid, wrapped on the direction of the generator axis, Lorentz would come and start breaking on the generator.

But I didn't go for a solenoid - I didn't even know how to build one - I went for a toroid.

Out of curiosity, I asked ChatGPT myself about the direction of Lorentz forces on a toroidal coil. The first answer was something from physics manuals. Then asked it again, in more layman terms, if it would try to spin the coil. And to my absolute astonishment, ChatGPT said that no, Lorentz will not try to spin the coil, but rather, it would try to compress or expand the coil. 

This was an Eureka moment. Did I discover the secret of toroidal coils ? Cause as long as Lorentz will just push to compress or expand the metal core, there will be no counter to rotation. Yes, I am a bit afraid of Lorentz in the expansion phase - will it try to break the wires ? Maybe.

So how would it work ?

It is based on pulsing voltage into the coil, while the coil is spinning along with the magnet. My first objective after the coil is inserted in the generator, is to re-establish the unipolar induction results coming from the coil area : a similarly high amperage and a low voltage, just as before.

In the current setting, unipolar induction creates the plus on the axis and the minus on the rim. I have to get almost the same results from the coil, while it spins, regardless if the phenomena happens inside the coil or at its connected margins - the axis and the brush.

Then I would pulse current with a PWM inside the coil, in an opposite direction (minus to the axis, plus to the rim). Yes, limited amperage will be an issue, for this reason I presume the coil will not charge as expected and the flyback will probably be not too much. But I still expect more than a few volts.

The goal is to have an altered current curve during the flyback. The current is usually almost zero when flyback is intense (first microsecond), but people use stationary coils. And even the unipolar generator, generates nothing when it's not rotating, despite of the presence of the magnets.

I presume that at the end of the pulse, when flyback comes, polarity will switch in the coil to preserve current direction, and it will generate plus at the axis and minus at the rim, just, and the same time with the high amperage unipolar induction. I want to see at least some amps joining the high voltage party.

[Jim Mac]

Hello,

Allow me to start with Lenz verses Lorentz.  in my own words and understanding.  Now realize, I purposely stay away from books on these subjects.  I decided when I started to start on step 1 in discovery.  If Newton and Faraday's teachings led them to believing energy is conserved, I do not want to be molded in that way of thought.  

Lorentz-  Happens in a transformer. It's basically "reciprocating"..  If 1 magnetic field can affect another, the one it affected can and will affect the first right back.  The primary turns NORTH and sends it's flux through the secondary.  The secondary now has a magnetic field which send's it's flux right back through the primary.  This makes the load you pull from the secondary reciprocate right back to the primary, and ultimately the supply.  It is because of Lorentz that a transformer can not output enough to sustain the varying magnetic flux that created it.

LENZ-  Lenz happens on moving magnetic fields and is different than Lorentz. (at least on paper).  When a magnetic field is in motion and passes an inductor, the inductor takes the polarity that will oppose the motion.  So if a North field is coming in- the inductor turns North because it attempts to REPEL the incoming magnetic field to stop the motion.  Likewise, then the North pole is trying to pull away, the inductor turns SOUTH so stop it from doing so and slow you down.  

The first thing to understanding IMO is to discover which direction induced and reciprocal current will flow with each individual magnet / inductor interaction.  I don't concern myself with the right-hand / left-hand rule.  

Pulsing 2 coils North / North makes induced current do which direction?
Pulsing South /South ...  which direction?
North / South..  Which direction?
South / North ...  Which direction..?

Then Shrinking..

Shrinking North / Growing North - which direction?
Shrinking South / Shrinking North..
Etc Etc etc..

I have done this over many months hundreds of hours.  And it all boiled down to 2 steadfast rules that I have never seen broken.  I could just say these rules, but getting the answers outright leads to shallow understanding.  Figuring it out leads to deep understanding and the ability to apply the logic to ideas, as well as actually understand what the current is doing and the true nature of induction.

As a side note- many will want to jump in and correct me because they know what the books say.  If you want to learn conventional formulas and conventional electricity, the books are the way.  But I am seeking something a little different

[fxeconomist]

Well I actually started straight with Overunity and went to the books where I needed classic explanations. Only using conventional ways will lead to conventional results - aka underunity.

[Jim Mac]

Regarding Volts and Amps.. Neither actually exist.

Lets just take a battery as an example.  The battery is basically a container with 2 compartments that hold an imbalanced volume of electrons.  And all the battery wants to do is balance these compartments.  So given the path, these electrons will balance the compartments, and we just put our circuitry in the way so harvest natures power of balance.

A Volt is not a thing, and there are no "Volts" in batteries.  Nor are there "Amps".  Volts and Amps are just ways to measure the imbalance between the 2 compartments, and measure the flow when they start to balance.

Example-  We have 750 units in 1 compartment, and we have 760 units in the other.  The difference between the 2 compartments is 10 units, so we have 10 Volts.  

Lets say we have a Huge 12" pipe flowing 100 units of water out of it per second.  The pressure is moderately low and the water evenly flows out at 100 units per second.  The 100 units of flow is your amperage.   Now we put a reducing hose nozzle on the pipe and the water starts coming out with MUCH more pressure...    We increased Voltage!  BUT because we reduced the pipe opening size, now the volume of water coming out is MUCH LESS also.

The actual "Power Level" of the water stays the same in both scenarios. More water with Less Pressure, or Less water with More Pressure.  

Now we want to combine more than 1 stream, so we spray 2 high pressure nozzles at the same time (in parallel).  We end up getting the exact same amount of pressure, but 2X the volume of water.

So maybe series..  We spray through 2 hose nozzles.  Now we doubled the pressure!  But we end up only getting the same water volume that 1 hose produced before combining.

Now regarding the goal of combining amps and volts, I am not sure about this.  We are looking to spray a high pressure hose stream into a slow moving river of larger quantity of water, and wanting to move the entire contents of the slow moving river as quickly as the hose spray is moving.  I do not think this is possible.

I don't want to discourage you and I am not saying it is not worth trying.  Just offering a way to view the challenge.

[fxeconomist]

Small update to the project.

I managed to obtain and install the coil. Nothing fancy, about 5 m of flimsy cable (¬1 sq mm copper) wound over a really fancy core the engineers made for me.

I then insulated the coil and put a thin - too thin - copper band on top.

With the coil completely unconnected I got absolutely nothing. The amperage needle didn't budge. The unipolar induction didn't create a minus and a plus at the axis and the flimsy copper ring on the rim.

This was already getting difficult to test because of the uneavenness - that is, the dents in coil width corresponding to the bridge, where are no covering wires.

At few thousand RPM, it was hitting hard against the wire I was using manually as a bruah, but I didn't see anything.

Then I connected the coil. I applied some copper band rounds over the end near the rim and I connected the other end to the shaft collar.

In previous no-coil runs, I got some massive results, 50 - 60 - even to 100 A - between the pot and the magnet.

But now the needle barely moved. Probably reading about 5A. But this time I used only one magnet. Don't know why I didn't bother with the other one, but I think this would have pushed it to 8-10A total.

Which means that one of my assumptions was validated : the coil CAN act as a Faraday disk. The far lower result is the application of inverse square/cube law (whichever) and the fact that I used only one magnet.

Another supposition was invalidated : just having an axis and a brush ring in the air is not enough to create unipolar induction. There has to be metal equivalent to the disk between them.

I sent the coil back to the engineers to make the changes, but I have a positive feeling that we can attach these amps to a flyback voltage.