Dinámica de flujos en sistema Figuera

[Lasco]

Hi 

I will make video and share with you from my google drive 

Try this set up 
Primaries must be Facing North and South as stated in patent
 I have placed condenser 30uF 450V between the splitted commutator

[Escumo]

Hola, el asunto de introducir un condensador en el circuito Figuera no lo he hecho nunca debido a no estar referido, dicho componente, en ningún lugar en las diferentes patentes del generador Figuera, yo siempre he intentado hacer una copia del mismo modo y con los mismos medios y elementos propuestos en sus patentes. No obstante, introduciré condensadores para probar y ver las ventajas, en mi caso y con mi circuito tal como está en la imagen que envié, la producción es muy baja, del orden del 10% respecto a la energía puesta en juego, por ejemplo, si introduces 50W obtienes 5W, sin aumentar la entrada, puede parecer muy poca cantidad, pero. verifica el principio de funcionamiento, pues, no aumenta la entrada al cargar la salida, el problema que estoy teniendo radica en el enmascaramiento de lis campos magnéticos creados en las bobinas N y S estando el sistema en paralelo general con la alimentación, cuando cambio a serie la producción es mucho mayor del orden del 45% son aumentar el. o sino de entrada y sin usar condensadores

Hello, I have never done the matter of introducing a capacitor into the Figuera circuit because said component is not referred to anywhere in the different patents of the Figuera generator, I have always tried to make a copy in the same way and with the same means and elements proposed in their patents. However, I will introduce capacitors to test and see the advantages, in my case and with my circuit as it is in the image I sent, the production is very low, on the order of 10% with respect to the energy put into play, for example, if you introduce 50W you get 5W, without increasing the input, it may seem very small amount, but. verify the operating principle, because, the input does not increase when loading the output, the problem I am having lies in the masking of the magnetic fields created in the N and S coils when the system is in general parallel with the power supply, when I change to series the production is much higher, on the order of 45% without increasing the. or else input and without using capacitors

[Escumo]

En la técnica electromecánica, también llamada Electrónica del carbón ( 1* etapa de la electrónica ), los condensadores se usaban, exclusivamente, como elementos apaga chispas entre contactos de potencia, en aplicaciones de corriente continua de baja frecuencia, el resto de componentes eran bobinas electromagnéticas para motores o bobinas de relés de diferentes contactos y potencias, todo se hacía con las bobinas y las bondades qué ellas nos ofrecen, los motores de CC, inversores como conmutatrices u onduladores eran las funciones típicas de la electromecánica de la época del Carbón y esta técnica encierra muchos secretos no revelados y el generador eléctrico Figuera es uno más. Los inventores de la época de 1900 experimentaron con ella logrando avances muy importantes para la humanidad en el plano de las telecomunicaciones y electrodomésticos en general, más en referencia a la generación y manejo de energía eléctrica de origen electromecánico quedó reducida al sistema de inducción de Faraday exceptuando la de origen químico mediante baterías que hoy día está en plena expansión de prototipos diferentes y sus aleaciones.

In the electromechanical technique, also called Carbon Electronics (1st stage of electronics), capacitors were used exclusively as spark-extinguishing elements between power contacts, in low frequency direct current applications, the rest of the components were electromagnetic coils for motors or relay coils of different contacts and powers, everything was done with the coils and the benefits that they offer us, DC motors, inverters such as commutators or inverters were the typical functions of electromechanics of the Coal era and this technique contains many unrevealed secrets and the Figuera electric generator is one more. The inventors of the 1900s experimented with it achieving very important advances for humanity in the field of telecommunications and household appliances in general, more in reference to the generation and handling of electrical energy of electromechanical origin was reduced to the Faraday induction system except for that of chemical origin by means of batteries that today is in full expansion of different prototypes and their alloys.

[Lasco]

Hello Escumo

I’m trying my best to get Figuera generator operational
It is working process and I’m sharing my mishaps with community as yourself
Will keep you posted on these pages with success or failure 
As it comes 
Lasco

[Escumo]

Hola Lasco, entendido su mensaje y totalmente de acuerdo con usted, no obstante, me permito enviar algunas imágenes de artefactos de la época, por ejemplo, Sintonizador de permeabilidad magnética variable, espero pueda disfrutar de estas maravillas olvidadas por la técnica actual, técnica Digital frente a técnica Analógica y encontrar ciertas analogías con Figuera.

Hello Lasco, I understand your message and completely agree with you. However, I would like to send you some images of artifacts from that time, for example, the Variable Magnetic Permeability Tuner. I hope you can enjoy these wonders forgotten by current technology, Digital versus Analog technology, and find some analogies with Figuera.

[Escumo]

Otra cosa interesante, lo escribo aparte de donde me han preguntado porqué no quiero molestar a nadie ni estorbar en su camino, la cuestión es muy interesante cuando eres capaz de descubrir la otra forma de crear inducción, ya mencionada por mí en este mi tema, no significa que no haya lenz o que difiera de la de Faraday, la única diferencia está en usar las direcciones de los flujos magnéticos creados por las bobinas N y S junto con el flujo de la bobina Y, al estar cargada, ya está explicado y mostrado en mis vídeos. La cuestión radica en la necesidad de que exista, como dice Figuera, intensidad y variarla de modo continuo y ordenado, entones se da la paradoja de qué necesitas intensidad y con ella cebar los núcleos magnéticos de las bobinas N y S, Figuera lo dice hay que conseguir cebar el sistema y ese cebado lo hace la intensidad eléctrica convertida en intensidad de campo magnético a través de las bobinas N y S junto a la acción de los dos conmutadores que deben estar completamente sincronizados para conseguir el cebado magnético del núcleo de las bobinas N y S
Entonces y por igualación con un alternador de automóvil, el sistema se auto ceba o autoexcita una vez alcanzado un cierto valor de cebado.

Another interesting thing, I write it separately from where I have been asked because I do not want to bother anyone or get in their way, the question is very interesting when you are able to discover the other way of creating induction, already mentioned by me in this my topic, it does not mean that there is no lenz or that it differs from Faraday's, the only difference is in using the directions of the magnetic fluxes created by the N and S coils together with the flux of the Y coil, when charged, it is already explained and shown in my videos. The issue lies in the need for intensity to exist, as Figuera says, and to vary it in a continuous and orderly manner. Then the paradox arises: you need intensity and with it to prime the magnetic cores of the N and S coils. Figuera says that you have to prime the system, and this priming is done by the electrical intensity converted into magnetic field intensity through the N and S coils, together with the action of the two switches, which must be completely synchronized to achieve magnetic priming of the core of the N and S coils.
Then, and by comparison with an automobile alternator, the system self-priming or self-exciting once a certain priming value is reached.

[Lasco]

Hello Escumo

I believe that switching commutator is somehow different approach which needs to be evaluated

What amazes me is that wording of the patent is clearly saying N and S or opposite poles and everyone is trying the same polarity as N and N on primaries
I have also considered this idea but it is not correct

Buforn draw small square on some of his patents and I believe that this device on his patents has important significance

Lastly patent drawing from Figuera was highly damaged and someone did draw lines from his own understanding of Figuera generator connection into it

Try it with new ideas and you will see

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Hi Escumo

Here are some pictures of my set up 
interestingly speed of turning of commutator is only exactly half of frequency measured on secondary coil
    I have constantly double the frequency on the secondary which is result of splitting input voltage into primaries from one side to other

[Escumo]

Buenos días Lasco, llevas mucha razón en tus planteamientos y tus realizaciones prácticas te mostrarán el camino a seguir. Yo estoy en la misma senda, sólo Figuera, y la constante variación del enfoque técnico lleva al desastre práctico, no obstante, veo que tú bobina Y es sin núcleo y muchas vueltas, esto no lo he probado y lo intentaré hacer, plantear nuevos retos con Figuera es avanza en descubrir su funcionamiento.La configuración Serie es. en mi caso, la mas ventajosa debido al uso de más intensidad y con ello más posibilidad de autoexcitarse

Good morning Lasco, you are absolutely right in your approach, and your practical achievements will show you the way forward. I am on the same path, only Figuera, and the constant variation in the technical approach leads to practical disaster. However, I see that your Y coil is coreless and has many turns. I have not tested this, but I will try to do so. Setting new challenges with Figuera is progressing in discovering how it works. The Series configuration is, in my case, the most advantageous due to the use of greater intensity and, therefore, a greater possibility of self-excitation.

[Lasco]

Figuera patent isn’t just about "adding a fixed value per segment" — it’s about dynamically distributing current between the two opposing primary coils N and S such that:

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? The Figuera Principle:

• The sum of currents through the two opposing primaries is kept constant but 20ms apart
  
• The distribution of that current is shifted suddenly from one side to the other, via a second commutator 
  

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? What That Means Electrically:

• Imagine the total current = constant (say, 10 A)
  
• N:
  • Coil N = 10 A, Coil S = 0 A  (16 - 1)
    
• Mid-cycle:
  • Coil N = 1 A, Coil S = 0 A     (4 - 5)  (12-13)
    
• • Coil N = 0 A, Coil S = 1 A      (5 - 6)  (13-14
    
  S        coil N= 0A  , coil S = 10 A

➡️ The total magnetic field is pulsing between N and S , inducing current in the secondary.

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? Resistor Chain Logic (Part G)
The resistor network is like a voltage divider where:

• Each segment taps off a different voltage
  
• A rotating brush connects to one tap at a time
  
• This gradually increases one coil’s current while decreasing the other’s
  

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✅ Corrected Resistor Plan:
Instead of one resistor per commutator contact, Figuera used a chain of resistors, like this:

Code:

-V -----[R1]----[R2]---[R3]--[R4]---[R5]---[R6]---[R7]---
       |     |        |     |     |     |               |
      Tap1  Tap2     Tap3 ...    Tap5         Tap7     Tap8 → rotating brush

• Tap1 = full current to Coil N, none to Coil S
  
• Tap5 = balanced in resistance best position for primary changeover
  
• Tap8 = reversed: full current to Coil S, none to Coil N
  
  

Segment   Resistance (% of Rₚ) (7 x  coils sum of  resistance )
16 - 1                     0%
1 -   2                    25%
2 -   3                    67%
3 -   4                   250%
4 -   5                   250%
5 -   7                    67%
7 -   8                    25%
8 -   9                     0%

TIMING OF CHANGE OVER IS ON SEGMENT 4-5 THEN SPARKING ON COMUTATOR IS MINIMAL 


and this is what confuses us all

then add this diagram
                      +DC
                          │
              ┌────┴────┐
              │                      │
  ┌────▼────┐ ┌──▼────┐
  │  COM #2/1  │ │  COM #2/2│  ← Direction Switch (25 Hz) on the same shaft 
  │ (Polarity)│  │   
  └────┬────┘ └──┬─────┘
              │                    │
              ▼                   ▼
  ┌────────┐ ┌────────┐
  │Primary N│ │Primary S│
  └───┬─────┘ └────┬───┘
      │            │
      └──┬───────┬──┘
             ▼                ▼
        ┌──────────────┐
        │  COM #1      │ ← 8-Segment Resistor Commutator
        │ (Segments 1–8│
        └──────────────┘
                │
              minus V

        ⬍ Secondary Coil ⬍
  (Fixed in air gap between N and S)
  (Sees 50 Hz alternating field)

• CHANGEOVER FROM PRIMARY "N"  TO PRIMARY "S" must be lined on the same shaft on 4-5 segment 

Primary N:  /¯¯¯¯¯\               /¯¯¯¯¯\
Primary S:                 \_____/               \_____
                < 20 ms >    < 20 ms >  (25 Hz switching)
               
Resistor waveform: ramp ↑ then ↓ (half-sine)
                  Segment 4-5  → 12-13

Switch happens at Segment 4–5 and 12 - 13 ⇨ minimal current  of wave ⇨ seamless handoff
Output from secondary is perfect sine in 50 or 60Hz 

I hope that this will help 

I have tried many versions and this one with split commutator is working the best , not only is all happening much slower but each primary has time to absorb energy from other via magnetic linking North attracts South and South attracts North 



Lasco

[Escumo]

Gracias Lasco, muy buenas tus explicaciones, cuando las personas son competentes es un placer dialogar ó compartir ideas sobre algo que nos mueve la conciencia por el mero hecho de hacerlo sin más. Muchas Gracias

Thanks, Lasco. Your explanations are very good. When people are competent, it's a pleasure to discuss or share ideas about something that moves our conscience simply for the sake of it. Thank you very much.