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Jim Mac's Figuera Thread
(02-05-2025, 07:56 PM)Lasco Wrote: hi Jim

I'm sorry about going into your builder's thread.

I got carried away with ideas and wanted to rub in on our community 

Please Accept my apology 

https://www.mooker.com/thread-67-page-4....ht=figuera This thread slowed down we need to push it somehow

on another note, I'm interested in your approach and keeping my fingers crossed

Nah bud, nothing to apologize for.  All these ideas and theories should be thoroughly tested. I just want to keep individual topics centered around the thread creator's outlook.  So we can watch and learn from each-others progress and failures.  And avoid having 100 different ideas and thoughts jammed into 1 thread.

Thanks for reminding me of your other Figuera thread..  I am all about supporting each other as we seek the answer.  And I read every post made..
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Progressing Nicely..  Bit of hair pulling, but here's the deal..
  • Figuera Resistor Rig..  Driven by 24 Mosfets
  •  CAN use old-skool commutator if wanted.
  • Little different resistor configuration.. Figuera said his drawing was just an elementary drawing for comprehension.
  • Single Polarity Into resistor Rig..  Single Polarity Waves in primaries

Output of transformers Is this:  (yes I said OUTPUT)  FULL 2 polarity Even AC.  

   

This is the electronic assembly

   

All resistors are the same value-  24 resistors, 24 steps..  With this setup- Coil ohms does not matter- Resulting output is this uniform regardless!
  • Multi-Phase equipped!  Up to 12 Phases!  Connect and go!

Finally, most will not understand why this is important..  Alternator rotor ALWAYS connected to 12V..  Voltage does NOT vary...  Alternator creates varying magnetic field WITHOUT modulating voltage in the primary rotor coil...

This setup does the same!  Primaries (all phases) ALWAYS remain steady voltage inputs..  No varying the voltage!

Now to the output setups!  I'm psyched...
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(03-18-2025, 07:54 PM)Jim Mac Wrote: Progressing Nicely..  Bit of hair pulling, but here's the deal..
  • Figuera Resistor Rig..  Driven by 24 Mosfets
  •  CAN use old-skool commutator if wanted.
  • Little different resistor configuration.. Figuera said his drawing was just an elementary drawing for comprehension.
  • Single Polarity Into resistor Rig..  Single Polarity Waves in primaries

Output of transformers Is this:  (yes I said OUTPUT)  FULL 2 polarity Even AC.  



This is the electronic assembly



All resistors are the same value-  24 resistors, 24 steps..  With this setup- Coil ohms does not matter- Resulting output is this uniform regardless!
  • Multi-Phase equipped!  Up to 12 Phases!  Connect and go!

Finally, most will not understand why this is important..  Alternator rotor ALWAYS connected to 12V..  Voltage does NOT vary...  Alternator creates varying magnetic field WITHOUT modulating voltage in the primary rotor coil...

This setup does the same!  Primaries (all phases) ALWAYS remain steady voltage inputs..  No varying the voltage!

Now to the output setups!  I'm psyched...

Please take it easy, I’m hyperventilating while reading this thread ?
Good job I hope that will result with good results.
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(03-18-2025, 08:12 PM)Lasco Wrote: Please take it easy, I’m hyperventilating while reading this thread ?
Good job I hope that will result with good results.

Hey Boss, I got much to share..  I will start off by saying,  
  • Never run your Figuera setups off a DC power supply..  ALWAYS use a battery..  It is crucial..  DC supplies have Diodes which prevent return energy from being returned to the source..
  • Bias your coils by connecting Positive to the coils Directly and and use the resistor on the Ground side..  I will explain more below..

  • Finally, Multi-Phase is needed..  Notice Buforn's parallel drawing, minimum of 2 phases probably required.  More Below..

Why Connect Positive to the Coils?  Because this means the input lead of the transformer is always biased to the source voltage.  Just like an alternator rotor is connected to 12V ALWAYS..  Voltage NEVER varies..  IMPORTANT!   

If the coil is biased to the source, ANY Induced voltage rides on TOP of the bias..  Bias means the source voltage is the FLOOR..  Now you don't need Over 12V to send back to the battery positive..  ANY amount of voltage (no matter how small) will now be above the battery positive voltage..  Even if you are only inducing 1V into the primary from mutual induction,  the result is 1V OVER 12V source!   If you vary the voltage to make a varying flux field, you will NEVER be able to replicate the dynamo actions because your coil's at say 3-4 volts and declining but the battery is at 12V!  Meaning the shrinking wave can't be used!


Next-  WHY Multi-Phase?  You have to loop it..  one phase goes to ZERO and back up..  There is No Constant DC..  With single phase, power is there one moment then gone the next..  How can it pull energy from the output when the DC keeps disappearing?   Capacitors are probably NOT the answer..  I'll explain in a bit..

First Look at an alternator's rectified 3 phase

   

Look at the green ripple at the bottom.  The ripple is over a CONSTANT DC BIAS..  The input ALWAYS has DC available at every moment from it's own output..  It can't power itself IF there is no power on the output the moment it needs to draw power...

Finally- Why cap's probably won't work to correct single phase?  Discharge a cap from 20V to 19V..  You get Real Current OUT..   Now charge a cap from 19V to 20V.  The current CRAWLS at a snails pace..  Recharging the cap back to full throttles your current because of the inverse operation they do.  Real RAW power MUST be available On-Demand when the input makes its "Draw Call"..  

Whoever paid close attention probably wondered why on Figuera's resistor rig all the contacts have 2 strings of resistors between contacts EXCEPT the last contact has 1 resistor string..  I will explain why soon-  And how the resistor rig needs to be configured to get the multi-phase and excellent dual polarity sinewave outputs you seen above .   

more soon!
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Congratulations Jim, this is huge!
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hi Jim

I always wondered why there is only one resistor between 7-8, 9-10, and the opposite side 15-16, 1-2 has two resistors, my thoughts were that perhaps it is due to marked rotation on the "G".

I'm eagerly awaiting your thoughts about it.

well done Jim -- Finally someone is thinking differently
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(03-19-2025, 07:04 AM)Lasco Wrote: hi Jim

I always wondered why there is only one resistor between 7-8, 9-10, and the opposite side 15-16, 1-2 has two resistors, my thoughts were that perhaps it is due to marked rotation on the "G".

I'm eagerly awaiting your thoughts about it.

well done Jim -- Finally someone is thinking differently

I've been busy and haven't had a chance to work on it the last few days.  

I may have spoke before thinking closely regarding the resistor enigma.  But I will tell about the system that allows you to produce multiple AC phases, ALL uniform like my output image above.

I am connecting the resistor rig in a circle connecting to itself.  Now the 2 ends of the resistor are directly across from each other.
So if your resistor has 8 contacts, you can create 4 perfect phases.  My resistor has 24 contacts, so I can produce 12 perfect phases.

The resistor rig is the electromagnet ground, which is varying in a circle like rotation.  Battery positive goes to the input of all transformers, then transformers ground leg connects to the resistor rig.  So now 2 opposite transformers are connected,  one is growing while the other is shrinking. But all transformers are now biased to the battery positive lead.   Now those 2 transformer outputs must be placed in series.  

Usually we see the crappy wave with the rounded belly.  But when two transformers are on the correct growing / shrinking cycle and outputs placed in series, the one growing pushes that shallow belly right down to a near perfect stepped sinewave.  

And when the resistor rig connects to itself in a circle, every contact can now be used for that growing / shrinking sister pattern.  -  Unlike the non-connected resistor rig..  You probably have noticed when the resistor is not connected to itself (like usual) the only 2 contacts that give somewhat of a stepped wave is the first and last.    But connecting it in a ring lights all the contacts up and now they can all be put into play.

As far as I am thinking, my setup now is similar to 1 magnet passing a coil, thus producing a sinewave from a single polarity magnet.  But the alternator next has the opposite polarity magnet that needs to come in right when the first magnet passes top dead center.  I'll be doing that next.

I haven't messed much with the figuera triplet coils at this time.  I have a certain angle I am working on-  for now all I want to see is that shrinking part of the sinewave start sending current that flows through the battery positive.  Once I see that start to happen- it's game on..
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I hope that your direction of thinking will be fruitful
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Thanks- We'll see..

I got 2 phases hooked up 90 degrees shifted.  Scope showing the 2 isolated outputs.

   
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