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Light to Magnetic Field (LTMF) = CEMF Can Not raise Input
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This is to open the arena for discussion on possible ideas using this angle.

I will prove with the video below that it is absolutely possible to create induction which CAN NOT raise the source input requirement.



As we can verify, flickering or sweeping light across a solar panel can be connected to a primary of a transformer to create an output.  

CEMF from the secondary WILL create a counter current in the primary, but this counter current can not pull more current from the source. (Light).

One area of exploration is,  would it be possible to rotate or flicker lights to panels and harvest the initial output of a transformer, then also harvest the CEMF that is returning to the panel?

OR could we attach lights on a rotor and create a Light-Generator?  The passing lights create DC pulses which are changed to magnetic pulses, and perhaps achieve generator like induction without any Lenz Drag?  As magnetic fields can not restrict the movement of light.

One big issue is that we are already set at a disadvantage because creating artificial light to convert with solar is pretty inefficient,  But if a common alternator can produce 20 times the input,  if we could replicate that efficiency, this means we might be able to get 20 watts out from 1 watt input, which means out solar panel would only need to be 5% efficient to be > COP1.

Or perhaps even simpler,  maybe Sun Powered solar output can be increased by placing some moving reflector over 2 panels which oscillates the sunlight between 2 panels without ever wasting any light. 

Maybe a good way to start would be a simple setup where we pulse light bulbs with an arduino and H-bridges over panels on our bench and start digging into possibilities.

I just got 10x  5 VOLT  60 MA small panels to play with for very cheap. We will see if anything interesting pops up

   
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Thinking about it a little more, this may be viable.

The biggest issue we have is that CEMF works in a way to raise input gain equal to output. But this LTMF Tech  (Light to magnetic field) has the potential to defeat this biggest obstacle.

The downside is the solar efficiency.  But we all already know many ways to increase magnetic field strength with various solutions.  This rarely helps us because with increased EMF comes increased CEMF.  But using LTMF, we may be able to harness the techniques of increased EMF without facing off with the drawback of CEMF.

All we need to do is make the magnetic intensity constantly change to induce.  And lights can be controlled with absolute precision.
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#3
Great thinking, Jim!
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CEMF from the secondary WILL create a counter current in the primary, but this counter current can not pull more current from the source. (Light).
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(03-11-2024, 08:59 AM)ovun987 Wrote: Great thinking, Jim!

Thanks-  Just got some items in to experiment with.  The solar panels are quite small, but perhaps I can gather some data with them.  Will be starting in a day or two.

(03-12-2024, 12:56 PM)chief colbacict Wrote: CEMF from the secondary WILL create a counter current in the primary, but this counter current can not pull more current from the source. (Light).

I suppose you copied my sentence to point out hypocrisy in the post title.  Fair enough- I modified the title to express the claim more clearly.
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#6
This may work to change Solar to AC, to feed a transformer or Electromagnet.  The 2 switches oscillate, one opens when the other closes.

   

The difference between this and just using a straight DC source is the CEMF does not have a path back to the Light (source).
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(03-13-2024, 06:28 AM)Jim Mac Wrote:
(03-11-2024, 08:59 AM)ovun987 Wrote: Great thinking, Jim!

Thanks-  Just got some items in to experiment with.  The solar panels are quite small, but perhaps I can gather some data with them.  Will be starting in a day or two.

I already have two A41-43-24 transformers, ten EI-14 transformers, and two microwave transformers in my possession. Thirty small 5v 60ma solar panels arrive today. Ready to get experimenting!
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#8
Also I have five BPW34 photodiodes, small 10W solar panel, and a large 120W solar panel. 

Apologies for the double post, this forum will not allow me to edit my previous post anymore. 

Note I own a Rigol DHO804 4-channel scope, Hantek DSO2D15 2-channel scope, and Siglent SDG 2042X signal generator too.

What switches would be good to have on hand for future experimentation? I do have four L298N H-bridges and two BTS7960 already.

Happy to provide additional experiments and data if you'd like me to use any of these with what you've got in mind.

All the best!
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#9
This is awesome, I have most of what you discussed. Also. And I think even the same solar panels. As like you, I also have some larger ones in the garage.  I just got a few Edison 6 w LEDs yesterday.

In the next day or two I will probably start by hooking both bulbs up to individual h. Bridges and playing with the code and on/off phases of the bulbs. 

I plan to just start gathering data and documenting what I see with what configurations, then go from there.

Feel free to post your updates in this thread also, as this is not a dedicated build log, but open for any experimentter to share their data.

Success or not, having this information available on what we find may be useful down the road, but who knows what will find!
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#10
So here is where I will start...

Tonight I am rigging up Bulb Holders and Panel Holders, so the distance and position of the bulbs relative to the panels will remain the same.  I am not focusing on optimization at this point. I just need to ensure the bulbs and panels are always in the same place / distance.

I will document efficiency of the panels by themselves with steady light.  This will be the controlled variable and the number to beat.

Once the efficiency of standard solar is documented with the setup, I will then proceed to try different ideas and configurations in attempts to output greater than the controlled variable in relation to input.

But for accurate testing, we must ensure the setup (distance and position of panels and bulbs) remain the exact same and we know precisely what they standard output is, as all experiments should have a controlled variable to compare to.

If we can successfully create a system which is more efficient than the controlled variable, it would be a WIN.  

So hopefully tomorrow I can show the setup with the controlled variable numbers...  Then go from there
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